What Big 12 Schools Would Remain In BCS Conferences If The Big 12 Crumbles?
There is a lot of internet speculation on the future of current Big 12 teams. We all know assume that the Texas A&M Aggies are heading to the SEC. But what about the futures of the other nine Big 12 schools? Who will land on their feet and who will fall out of the BCS graces?
Let's take a look at the percentage chance that each of the remaining schools will be in a BCS conference when if the Big 12 crumbles.
I've divided the conference into three groups, The "Fans Will Love Reading This" Group, The "Fans Will Agree With Me Privately, But Blast Me in the Comments" Group and The "Fans Will Send Me Hate Mail" Group.
See who is in each group and what the percentages are after The Jump.
The "Fans Will Love Reading This" Group
Texas Longhorns, 100% - Texas is, obviously, the cream of the Big 12 crop. Whether they end up in the Pac-12, B1G or end up independent, Texas has nothing to worry about.
Oklahoma Sooners, 100% - Like Texas, OU is a school that other conferences covet. It's looking like if the world shifts that OU would end up in the Pac-12, but the SEC is also in play for the Sooners.
Missouri Tigers, 100% - I haven't read a report, either coming out of the Show-Me State or by one of the national writers that doesn't have Mizzou landing in a BCS conference. Between the St Louis and KC markets, MU brings enough with them to warrant admission into one of the big boy conferences.
Kansas Jayhawks, 99% - KU is interesting. They don't bring much fanfare from their football team, but their basketball fans are rabid enough to make KU a desirable ‘get.' Though they essentially split the KC market with Mizzou and K-State, their name brand basketball program is good enough for most conferences. Their limiting factor may be the Kansas state legislature's desire to keep KU and K-State as a package deal.
The "Fans Will Agree With Me Privately, But Blast Me in the Comments" Group
Oklahoma St. Cowboys, 85% - Ok State's chance of admission into a power conference is based on their tie to OU, and most conferences would gladly take the Cowboys as a package to secure OU. As a stand-alone product they are less desirable, but all indication point to the Oklahoma schools uniting and winding up together.
Texas Tech Red Raiders, 75% - Like OSU, Tech is riding the ‘Horns wave. The only difference is that if UT ends up going independent then Tech is on the outside looking in. Again, like OSU, they don't necessarily bring enough by themselves to gain admission into a BCS conference, but no conference would deny admission to UT if Tech was a contingent factor.
The "Fans Will Send Me Hate Mail" Group
Kansas St. Wildcats, 65% - Here's the problem with K-State, they simply don't bring a large enough TV market with them, and don't have a powerhouse football team that can carry TV viewership. They split the KC market 3-ways and the rest of Kansas is so sparsely populated that K-State fans don't drive revenue like other schools. Their footprint screams Mountain West or MAC much more than Pac-12 or SEC, and KU doesn't have enough power to hold out for a package deal, so K-State might be left behind. I still give them a better than 50/50 chance, but just barely.
Baylor Bears, 35% - The Bears are another that need to rely on the Horns to gain entrance into a power conference. In truth they are in the Big 12 because former Texas governor Ann Richards is a Baylor alumnus and used political wrangling for Baylor's inclusion. With the way this expansion might shake out, I don't see Baylor as having enough support to partner with UT and see them being left out in the cold.
Iowa St. Cyclones, 25% - This is where I'll get my hate mail... ISU just doesn't have enough to warrant admission into a power conference. The split the Iowa market with a B1G school and just don't have a footprint outside of the state. I hate to dog a conference school like this, and Clone fans tend to hate my world view, but if the Hawkeyes don't campaign for ISU (and they won't) then who does? If nobody, what does ISU bring to a power conference that would make them extend an invitation?
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Agree for the most part…I would say 100% for KU if they went to the ACC
KU to ACC?
I think it’s a long-shot for KU to go to the ACC, but can you imagine the basketball games. That conference would be guaranteed six nationally televised games: anytime NC, Duke, and KU play each other. Nothing could get me away from the TV the first time Roy returns to the Phog.
... or the Big East
They had 11 teams int eh tourney this year already… and now you add in KU. HOLY MOSES!
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If KU doesn't go to the Pac-12, they'll go to the Big East like everyone else looking for a lifeboat.
KU is going to be down the list, though. You can bet that Texas will have an immense amount of political pressure to save at least one of the schools, and Lubbock fits the Arizona/Colorado/Utah/Texas/Oklahoma footprint than Lawrence, Kansas.
KU lost most of their Pac-12 hopes when Utah came on board. Texas, OU, and OSU are almost guaranteed entry. You’re then looking at MU, KU, or Tech lobbying for #16. I don’t like their chances. Tech has political backing, MU has TVs and a football program. KU has nothing to stand on.
And people are assuming that the ACC will want to expand past 12. Considering some in their circles lament expanding past nine, that’s a very significant assumption.
KU’s best shot at landing in a major conference is the Big Ten should they expand to sixteen, and they want AAU schools. The SEC isn’t going to be interested, the ACC has plenty of Big East teams they could steal that make much more sense than KU, and the Pac-12 already has at least two options that make much more sense than Kansas.
KU will end up in a BCS conference, but like KSU, it will most likely be the Big East in the short term.
Bring on the Cats
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -- Mark Twain
25% for Iowa State?
I’ll house that bet. BetwMiggy.eu. No conference needs that school to bump up its prestige or take a share of its pie. It’d be like sharing your cookies with the other kids at the table and then inviting the kid who can’t eat candy to take one. Would make no sense. Iowa State go play with the kids who can only eat vegetables and drink natural juice.
ISU...
In the four superconfernce scenario (P12, SEC, B1G, BE/ACC), ISU’s best liklihood would be the BE/ACC combo pack, which I can’t see happening. ISU’s 25% comes from speculation that we end up with five superconferences. The four mentioned plus a “left over/MWC” conference with teams that didn’t make waves enough to get into one of the other four.
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The Husker foresight continues to reveal itself…
by Herbie on Sep 1, 2011 5:20 PM CDT via iPhone app reply actions
The two smartest people in the room last year
were CU and NU. No doubt.
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the death sentence was sealed
the instant those bastards in Austin came in. Whatever they touch they destroy. I guess I’ll get used to watching K-State going to Laramie every other year. Up yours Bevo.
I'm trying hard but some of this sabermetrics stuff sounds madeup.
by stram#1 on Sep 1, 2011 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
K-State would end up in a BCS conference
The Big East will snatch up anyone who has ever been to a BCS bowl to help retain AQ status in the event that they get raided.
Their most viable expansion candidate right now is Central Florida after Villanova moving up from FCS. KSU would rocket up that list pretty quickly, as well as ISU.
Baylor is screwed. You need to move KSU up to about 75%, ISU to 50%, and Baylor down to .001%. If they don’t have someone with political clout working on their behalf (which they won’t if the Texas schools all go their separate ways), they have nothing to stand on.
Bring on the Cats
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -- Mark Twain
I just can't see ISU being of intrege to anyone
Unlike Miguel I hate to bash ISU, but I simply don’t see what they would offer. As for KSU, As for KSU, I like the I-70 tri-varly and hope Mizzou, KU and KSU stick together…. we’ll see.
Baylor had the political clout to make it into the B12 in the first place (read: Richards, Ann) and will need as much this time to remain relevant.
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KSU and OU to the B1G
I’ve been working on a post for BOTC since Tuesday. Hope to have it done prior to game time.
When life hands you lemons, make grape juice. Let them wonder how the F*ck you did it.
by BlackCats on Sep 3, 2011 10:09 AM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions
let me know when it's up
love to see the take.
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You might as well be Don Quixote if you think basketball has an ounce to do realignment.
Seriously, and I know KU fans will disagree, but they’re absolutely wrong if they think their basketball credentials will get them into a power conference. This is all about economics and that means football. And within the football context it comes down to television markets, geography, and cache. Out of the Big 12 only Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Missouri have enough juice to make into a power conference. Evan Pfaff is right on with Texas Tech. They might get into a power conference but only because they would be a package deal coupled with Texas. Everybody else will be playing in the Mountain West, Conference USA or possibly even the Mid-American by the time the smoke clears on all of this.

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