Big 12 Conference Dissolution – Where Each Team Would Go
by Evan Pfaff on Aug 11, 2011 11:34 AM CDT
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PrintWith confirmation by Texas governor Rick Perry that the Texas A&M Aggies are exploring the possibility of moving to the SEC, it is once again time to look at the ripple effect of what a move like that would have.
If the Aggies do move on, that will leave nine schools left in the less-than-aptly named Big 12, basically signaling the end of the conference. Maybe not this year, maybe it will be a slow death, but if the Aggies move on the conference is doomed.
So after The Jump, my best guess on where current Big 12 schools will head if (when) the Big 12 dissolves.
Texas A&M Aggies, SEC: In-state recruits would love this move. They would be able to stay at home and play in the SEC. Win for A&M, perceived win for in-state athletes.
Oklahoma Sooners, Oklahoma St. Cowboys, SEC: I see the SEC as the first true "Super Conference" as we've been envisioning, with 16 teams. The Oklahoma schools would join with A&M and the Clemson Tigers to round out the 16.
Texas Longhorns, Independent: With the Longhorn Network and their national reputation, UT doesn't need no stinkin' conference.
Baylor Bears, Texas Tech Red Raiders, Pac-12: I'm more convinced of Tech's move than Baylor's, but seeing how Baylor appears to be protected by Texas state government, I feel they need to piggyback on someone and the Pac-12 is more likely than the SEC. plus this gets the Pac-12 into Texas and bumps the Pac-12 to 14, moving them precariously close to the magic 16 Super Conference number.
Kansas Jayhawks, Missouri Tigers, Big 10: Mizzou fans, administration and government have not hid their desire to join the Big 10. I think KU would be a good pick up for the conference also, despite a poor football team.
Iowa St. Cyclones, Kansas St. Wildcats, Mountain West: ISU and K-State are the biggest losers in Big 12 conference dissolution. They are really schools without a home. Their athletic revenues don't warrant being pursued by the other BCS Power Conference (ahem, Big 10), and the MWC needs more schools with TCU and BYU jumping ship.
OK, so in the pursuit of 16-team Super Conferences, what I have outlined here would bring the SEC to the needed 16 schools, Pac-12 to 14, and Big 10 to 14. I feel like the ACC would be the next to be raided to square away the Big 10, leaving the Pac-12 in search of two more schools. The Big East would essentially remain untouched.
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If this happens...
KU wins on many levels. Retain the Mizzou rivalry and enter a stable conference. They would lose the K-State in-house rivalry, but they could always schedule football and hoops games against the rival. Plus bringing in KU and Mizzou would secure the state of Missouri and Kansas TV rights, which would extend Big 10 home turf from the Atlantic with Penn State, through Kansas, so 1/2 to 3/4 of the country.
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Iowa State...
Should be lucky they are invited to join any conference. Even the MVC should have to debate adding them at this point in football and basketball.
Now now...
Be nice Miguel. ISU is in a tough spot. They wouldn’t add much in terms of TV market to the Big 10, because of Iowa. And they are a geographical outlier to the SEC and Pac-12 (though that may not mean as much as it used to, see TCU to the Big East).
I also think that until there are 4 Super Conferences, the MWC can slowly eek it’s way up the ladder and secure a BCS bid and more respect. Adding ISU and K-State would go a long way for that conference, as adding Boise St did for their football side of it.
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KU to Big 10?
If the Big 10 were to get both KU and MU without a doubt it would lock up the Kansas City market.
This is the first blog that thinks that KU could go to the Big 10. Most blogs have the Hawks going to the Big East. Assuming that the Big 10 wants Kansas, I can’t see the Kansas legislature allowing them to go to a AQ conference and leave Kansas State behind.
This is sad. I grew up in the Kansas City area and remember going to the Big 8 PRESEASON tournament back in the 70s.
K-State
I am torn on them. Are they really tied to KU? If so then youre right KSU and KU are a package, I just don’t see what KSU would bring that KU doesn’t, and KU has that basketball team that draws lots of national attention (though we all know it isn’t about hoops, it is about football and tv)
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K-State will not get left behind.....
the KS legislature will not let KU and KSU split off. If KU leaves then KSU becomes as irrevelant as Wichita State.
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Baylor to PAC?
Last year as the PAC 10 went after the Big 12, they made it clear they didn’t want Baylor. They wanted from the Big 12 south – UT, TAMU, TTU, OU, and OSU (5 teams). And to block any Texas government involvement, the PAC 10 immediately got Colorado to commit. This gave the PAC 16 teams and no Baylor.
Things haven’t changed – the now PAC 12 has made it clear they don’t want Baylor or schools like Baylor, i.e BYU. Baylor doesn’t fit and will never fit their mold.
Plus, as far as the PAC expanding again in Texas, is not likely. They wanted UT as the gem in 2010. With no UT, there are no gems and no markets. TTU (and Baylor) bring or offer absolutely nothing to the PAC.
by Charles Gonzales on Aug 12, 2011 6:57 AM CDT reply actions
Youre right
But in my mind there will eventually be 4 16-team super conferences and I see them geographically based, leading me to believe that if A&M goes to the SEC and UT goes independent then the PAC will want to get into Texas somehow. And like we saw before Baylor gets a lot of love from the Texas legislature. It is the biggest reach, and out of all the prediction probably the least likely to come true.
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Texas
If Texas goes independent, they can get into Texas a lot more – by scheduling Texas home-and-home series with teams like USC, Oregon, Cal, etc.
Baylor and TT are the opposite of the PAC in a lot of ways. They are not tourist destinations, that’s for sure.
I would be willing to wager that Baylor and TT are MWC-bound in the scenario outlined above, and that the PAC would consider teams such as Air Force before they consider Baylor.
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