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Big 12 "North" vs. Big 12 "South" Basketball: Who Wins?

We all know that recycling is a good idea in our everyday lives so I decided to recycle a story idea that I had done previously.

Before last season I made up two rosters of players, one from the Big 12 "South" and the other from the Big 12 "North" division as I thought it would be fun to see which school would win in a mythical 7 game series. I took some flack for including Marcus Relphorde on that team over some other players such as Markieff Morris who I mistakenly did not have listed at all. Some other big whiffs I made were including Wally Judge on the bench and  putting Matt Pilgrim into the starting lineup for the South squad. Hopefully when I look back on this down the road I won't have made such big swing and misses.

Well everyone knows that Nebraska & Colorado have left the conference so that in theory should give the "South" a distinct advantage when it comes to working up teams.

Once again this isn't an All-Star roster exactly but one in which try to field a team made up of the traditional positions of PG, SG, SF, PF & C.

One caveat is I am not including any player that has declared for the NBA Draft no matter if they 100% should come back to school (Kim English!!), so no Laurence Bowers or Cory Joseph either.

After the jump are my teams as well as whom I think would win in a 7 game series.  Also if I made any gross oversights of a player please let me know as whenever you try to make a list you always seem to forget someone or something.

Star-divide

NORTH                                                                                                 SOUTH

PG: Tyshawn Taylor - Kansas Jayhawks                                       Keiton Page - Oklahoma State Cowboys

SG:  Marcus Denmon - Missouri Tigers                                         J'Covan Brown - Texas Longhorns

SF: Rodney McGruder - Kansas State Wildcats                             Khris Middleton - Texas A&M Aggies
PF: Ricardo Ratliffe - Missouri Tigers                                             Quincy Acy - Baylor Bears
C: Thomas Robinson - Kansas Jayhawks                                       Perry Jones - Baylor Bears

Coach: Bill Self                                                                               Coach: Rick Barnes

BENCH

Scott Christopherson - Iowa State Cyclones                                 Dash Harris - Texas A&M Aggies

Chris Allen - Iowa State Cyclones                                                  J.P. Olukemi - OSU Cowboys

Jamar Samuels - Kansas State Wildcats                                     LeBryan Nash - OSU Cowboys

Jordan Henriquez-Roberts - K-State Wildcats                             Andrew Fitzgerald - Oklahoma Sooners

Melvin Ejim - Iowa State Cyclones                                               David Loubeau - Texas A&M Aggies

TEAM BREAKDOWNS

The South roster was the easiest to construct when it came to big men as Perry Jones was an obvious selection and gives that squad maybe the best player in the Big 12. Quincy Acy was a tough call for me to start over David Loubeau of A&M but I like Acy's ability to rebound a little bit more and Loubeau would give a nice scoring option coming off the bench. Middleton provides a nice mixture of size as well as outside shooting ability for this team that isn't the best from shooting from behind the arc. The guard positions I felt were a little thin in the South with a large portion of outside shooting now gone from the conference in players like Cade Davis, Lace Dunn & Jordan Hamilton. Keiton Page would be a good fit for this team as he could distribute the ball and be the beneficiary of open looks from downtown. I included another senior point guard in Dash Harris as his stats are not eye popping but he could come in and give solid minutes and not turn the ball over or do anything stupid. Two x-factor players on the bench for the South are Nash & Olukemi as Nash is a Top 5 SF recruit who could come into this squad and add some athleticism and strength. In Olukemi you have another player who occasionally can get warm from deep but has the ability to drive to the basket and draw fouls. I like the rotation of big men on this team and versatility of guys like Nash, Middleton & Olukemi but there isn't a ton of solid outside shooting so that would be a concern.

As for the North squad it is somewhat the opposite of the South squad with it's grouping of solid three point shooters in guys like Denmon, McGruder & Christopherson. The starting big men for the North are solid with Thomas Robinson & Ratliffe down low with Robinson maybe giving up some height to Perry Jones but definitely beating him in regards to brute strength. The only thing on this team is Robinson would have to stay out of foul trouble as the interior is quite thin on this squad. With only the four teams in the "North" now there is a lack of proven big men which is why I was forced to include Jordan Henriquz-Roberts & Jamar Samuels onto the bench. Henriquez-Roberts would be needed for this team solely for his size and to give some minutes while Samuels can occasionally ride a hot streak and would be needed to match up athletically with guys like Olukemi & to some extent LeBryan Nash from the South squad. As previously stated Denmon & McGruder both give good outside shooting in the starting lineup as well as being willing defenders and rebounders. Tyshawn Taylor is the best option at PG as he is athletic enough to give the South squad problems and he can drive the ball on offense and collapse the defense. On the bench also is Chris Allen who was included due to his experience playing in big games at Michigan State as well as Christopherson who could be a bomber off the bench.  Another Iowa State Cyclones made the squad in Ejim as he provides nice size at 6'6" with nice athleticism and the ability to score the ball.                     

MY PREDICTION:

I think this series would definitely go 7 games and I would have to give just a slight nod to the South squad as I think their big men are the difference. The outside shooting of the North squad gives them a good chance but I think their lack of depth in the post hurts them too much to overcome.

Poll
Who wins in a 7 game series of these two squads?
North
62 votes
South
20 votes

82 votes | Poll has closed

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I had to go with the South. I agree it would be a close series but I think Jones and Middleton are the two best players in the Big 12 (with Robinson being in the mix, of course). I think this puts them over the edge.

by JoshuaR on May 4, 2011 7:50 AM CDT reply actions  

Logical thinking aside,

any scenario that has K-State players against Texas players and a team that has KANSAS written on their chests, I’d have to go with the North on that one.

You just don’t bet against those odds.

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by mystman995 on May 4, 2011 8:53 AM CDT reply actions  

Oh - and do you really want Rick Barnes coaching that squad?

I leave him on the staff to recruit, but I wouldn’t want him around the X’s and O’s. I think Turg might be the pick here. Hell, I’d even go with Lon Kruger before Barnes.

Drew? Not so much.

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by mystman995 on May 4, 2011 8:56 AM CDT reply actions  

Ha

With Barnes as coach, I almost was swayed to the North.

by JoshuaR on May 4, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I had Turgeon originally typed in

but then I rethought about it and also had that first Texas vs A&M game in my head from last season

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by Joe Loyd on May 4, 2011 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kruger

honestly didn’t even think of him when coming up with this, not because I am saying he is bad but it just didn’t even occur to me although I would still have went with Barnes or Turgeon over him

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by Joe Loyd on May 4, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

i can't decide...

but the thing that stuck out to me is that we’re losing A LOT Of talent this year.

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by Evan Pfaff on May 4, 2011 9:49 AM CDT reply actions  

Same thing happened to the ACC- Shumpert, Williams, etc.

I felt good about the talent level for a short time after Jones/Barnes/Sullinger came back but I feel as if alot more people left (maybe because of these types of players coming back which made the draft very weak).

by JoshuaR on May 4, 2011 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gonna be interesting

on who steps up this upcoming season to become stars since yeah lost ALOT of talent. The list is pretty impressive that losing: Morris brothers, Pullen, Lace Dunn, Selby, T. Thompson, Jordan Hamilton and even other talented guys like Curtis Kelly, John Roberson, M. Singletary, Cade Davis etc.

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by Joe Loyd on May 4, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I don’t think a whole lot of people say Middleton making the leap like he did last year. I’m sure there will be guys like him this year as well.

by JoshuaR on May 4, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very true

Really hope he is straightened out and will last the whole season.

by JoshuaR on May 4, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Royce White and an entirely new team

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by Evan Pfaff on May 5, 2011 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Freshmen?

How does a one-and-done guy get on a team? I’m betting Myck Kabongo will be the top PG next year.

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by Caradoc on May 8, 2011 8:10 AM CDT reply actions  


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