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A Look at Possible Big 12 Additions

It has been several weeks since "Expansionpalooza" died down, and, well, we wanted to bring a little excitement back to the forefront.  So we were thinking about schools that would be a good fit in the Big 12 so that it can remain the Big 12.

And being a basketball blog, we are going to look solely at the expansion in terms of hoops.  So you can toss out a school like TCU, who may have had a perfect 12-0 regular season football record but only won 13 basketball games coupled with their 18 losses.  We're also going to overlook Rice's ranking by US News and World Report as the 17th best college to attend because frankly their basketball team stinks (8-22 last season, 1-15 in Conference USA).

Instead after The Jump, you'll find a list of schools that would make the Big 12 an even stronger basketball conference than it already is.  We will stick, loosely, to geographical lines and won't try and shake the world up by pilfering from any of the BCS power conferences.  Instead, like any good big brother we will pick on the little guys and steal from some of the smaller conferences.

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ST LOUIS U BILLIKENS

Why it'd work: They already have a rival 90 miles east on I-70. SLU fans already argue that Mizzou is scared to play them, and they sort of have a point... it is kind of a lose-lose situation for Mizzou.  The big, bad, public school in the Big 12 should wallop their smaller brethren in the Gatwway City so if they do then it they get no credit and if they should lose, well, heads will fly.

Why it won't work: Looking past the fact that they don't have a football squad, SLU would only be the second private school in the conference, and if we learned anything about the status of Baylor in the conference over the summer, it is that they don't hold much water.

HOUSTON COUGARS

Why it'd work: Houston didn't have the greatest season in their storied history last year, but they do have a tradition that might be able to start up again if they had the Big 12 as a backdrop to recruit players.  All you need to do is think back to Clyde Drexler and Hakeem Olajuwon on Houston's Phi Slamma Jamma squad to know that the potential for excellence is there.  And with Houston being the 4th largest city in the country, there is lots of recruiting potential.

Why it won't work: Houston is considered a "commuter school."  So while they have upwards of 37,000 students, the passion for Cougar hoops isn't where it might be with the support of an entire city.

UTEP MINERS

Why it'd work: The Texas 10, errr Big 12, conference would love to see another Texas school come into the mix. UTEP had a tremendous season last year, finishing 26-6 while losing in the first round of the NCAA tournament in the 8/9 game to eventual national champion runner-ups Butler Bulldogs. Texas-El Paso also has a storied history of basketball, winning the 1966 national championship (as Texas Western) in a memorable victory over Kentucky in what was the first championship won by a squad featuring an all African-American starting five.

Why it won't work: "Another Texas school?" (quote attributed to Missouri, Kansas, Kansas St, Iowa State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St.)

NORTHERN IOWA PANTHERS

Why it'd work: Did you see the NCAA tournament game against Kansas?

Why it won't work: "Did you see the NCAA tournament game against Kansas?" - Kansas

BYU COUGARS

Why it'd work: BYU lost their in-state rival to the Pac-10, so they would be open to moving.  They traditionally field great squads and would be competitive in the league.  Besides, Jimmer Fredette was a Gunner Draft superstar.

Why it won't work: "Fletch: Mr. Stanwyk's parents Marvin and Velma of Provo, were unable to attend the wedding. Those are three names I enjoy; Marvin, Velma, and Provo."

COLORADO STATE RAMS

Why it'd work: The Big 12 lost the Denver television market, this might be able to retain it.

Why it won't work: CSU won't retain the Denver television market.

NEW MEXICO LOBOS

Why it'd work: Even as a three seed in the NCAA tournament all the talking heads thought that nobody had ever heard of them and that they could sneak up on a few teams.  They also went 2-0 vs Big 12 squads, beating A&M and Tech.

Why it won't work: Fans of at least one Big 12 school don't know that New Mexico is a state (are you thinking of the same school as me?).

UMKC KANGAROOS

Why it'd work: THEY ARE CALLED THE KANGAROOS!

Why it won't work: They are called the Kangaroos.

So there you have it.  Any to add?

Poll
Who would you most like to see on Big 12 hardwood?
St Louis U
7 votes
Houston
56 votes
UTEP
5 votes
Northern Iowa
40 votes
BYU
40 votes
Colorado St
7 votes
New Mexico
29 votes
UMKC
5 votes
Other
18 votes
None. The Big 12 is fine with 10
33 votes

240 votes | Poll has closed

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i think you’re missing one of the more obvious choices, particularly if we’re focusing on basketball. what about memphis?
of the schools listed, over the past five seasons memphis has out-performed all of them – by FAR. josh pastner is a young coach with tons of potential, and joining a bcs conference opens all kind of recruiting ability. memphis isn’t a huge market, but it’s certainly bigger than provo, el paso, or northern iowa.
the football program (or lack thereof) realistically closes off memphis as an option, but adding a duo like houston with memphis gives credence to each major sport.

by LasVegas on Aug 2, 2010 4:00 PM CDT reply actions  

agree. Though I won’t fly to Memphis for love or money. Unless I want to get shot.

by longboard8 on Aug 3, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wichita State?

Why it would work: Wichita State has a renewed commitment to basketball in the last decade, and they have had a lot of success lately, including a sweet sixteen trip in 2006. Wichita State sits directly in the Big 12’s footprint and the campus is a 2 1/2 hour drive from four current Big 12 schools.

Why it wouldn’t work: No football team. Small enrollment for a public institution when compared to other Big 12 members. Non-traditional campus life.

by Rockparkcat on Aug 3, 2010 8:29 AM CDT reply actions  

U New Mexico

These guys are coming on strong and are trying to enter the athletics arms race. They’ll never keep up in football, but in basketball have good backing and good facilities. As was already stated, they are knocking off Big XII schools with some regularity.

The weakness is the population size of the state. This is the problem with most places in the mountain states. I also cannot imagine being a Houston or Dallas inner city kid and deciding on this program to attend.

Not many good looking women on campus either…

by longboard8 on Aug 3, 2010 1:25 PM CDT reply actions  

I can only imagine it

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe: Hey, let’s invite the Lobos into the conference.
Rest of Big 12: Man, them ladies be UGLY

by Evan Pfaff on Aug 3, 2010 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions  


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