Open Letter to Colorado Buffalo Fans: The Grass Isn’t Always Greener
CU Buff fans, I know you're excited about your move to the Pac-10. Truthfully I might be excited about road trips to places like Eugene, LA and Tucson.
But let's be honest... you are going to an athletically inferior conference.
Yep, the conference you're leaving is a better conference than the one you're going to.
Don't believe me? Let's look at the numbers of the two sports most college fans follow: basketball and football.
This year's basketball season hasn't begun yet, but the coaches are again bullish on the Big 12 and bearish on the Pac-10, ranking FIVE Big 12 teams in the inaugural poll, while a single Pac-10 school made the cut.
Last season the Big 12 got SEVEN teams into the NCAA tournament, placing 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8 and 10 seeds. The Pac-10? They placed Cal as an 8-seed and Washington as an 11-seed. Two of the Big 12 teams, Kansas St and Baylor, made the Elite Eight, neither of the Pac-10 schools made it past the Sweet 16.
Anomaly? Not quite. In 2009 both conferences got 6 teams into the Dance with Missouri and Oklahoma making the Elite Eight. Pac-10? One team made the Sweet 16.
Which conference was the last to have a basketball national champion? Why that's the Big 12 after KU cut down the nets in 2008.
It's not like there isn't basketball history between the two either... they play the annual Big 12/Pac-10 Hardwood Series, which the Big 12 won 9-3 last season and holds a 20-16 edge in the three season series'. It's such a dominating performance, in fact, that the Pac-10 declined to continue the series past this season.
Are you looking for talent? SEVEN Big 12ers were drafted in the first round of the NBA draft, TEN total in the two rounds of the draft. The Pac-10 had a total of two guys drafted.
Over to the gridiron, this season the Pac-10 has a great team in Oregon, ranked #1 in the BCS, deservedly so. Along with Stanford and Arizona, those three are the Pac-10 representatives in the poll. Compare that to the Big 12 who has a total of 6 ranked teams inside the Top 25: Nebraska, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas State, Texas A&M.
Last season was no different, as the Big 12 saw 8 schools get bowl bids, one of which played in the national championship game, going 4-4 overall. The Pac-10 went Bowling 7 times, going 2-5.
The year before? Seven Big 12 schools went to bowl games while 5 Pac-10 schools saw bowl action.
And in terms of talent, you can't overlook the fact that the Big 12 had the first four picks in the 2010 NFL draft. By the time a Pac-10 school's name was called, at number 10, FIVE Big 12ers were in the Champagne room. A total of NINE Big 12ers went in the NFL first round, compared to two Pac-10ers. The year before? The Big 12 outdrafted the Pac-10 7-4 in the first round. (Let me reiterate that a total of SIXTEEN Big 12 players were drafted in the first round this year's NBA and NFL drafts compared to three Pac-10ers in the first round of those drafts).
The last team from either conference to win a national championship? That'd be the Big 12's Texas Longhorns in 2005 (beating the Pac-10's USC). In fact, no Pac-10 school has won the national championship since the start of the BCS in 1997* (*assuming USC 2004 has to vacate because of Reggie Bush). In total, 2 Big 12 schools have won BCS national championships, and the conference has played in seven title games. The Pac-10 hasn't played in a non-Reggie Bush title game.
Listen CU fans, I am not an anti-Buff. My wife, her sister, cousin, dad, mom, 2 aunts, uncle, grandpa and grandma are all CU alumni. Her grandfather played for Colorado's 1940 NIT championship team and living in Denver, it's impossible for me not to follow CU.
I am also the same guy who made the claim that the Buffs should leave the conference over a year ago. So, if you want to call me hypocritical you have every right to do so.
But as I was reading some comments on SB Nation's Ralphie Report the general theme was that the move to the Pac-10 was a step up. As a Big 12 alumni, and devoted fan, I took offense.
It might be that some of the Pac-10 cities are "sexier" than Big 12 cities. I wouldn't necessarily disagree with that. I also wouldn't disagree that Boulder is one of the more liberal towns in America, and Colorado is now a blue state, so it would be philosophically more in line with the left side of the country than the red "fly over states." And some of you guys will probably know more about the economics of the move than I do... but this is a sports blog, so I am discussing sports.
And when it comes to the cash generating sports, there is no question that the Big 12 is a better athletic conference than the Pac-10.
I hold no grudges and don't mean to criticize your enthusiasm. I think that anytime you can date the prettiest girl in school you should go for it. I do know, however, that sometimes when you dig a little deeper, things aren't quite as they appear.
Good luck to you and hopefully we can meet again somewhere down the line.
- Evan
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Great post...
definitely the best I have read on this site. Great data, would love to hear opposing views to this. Living in St. Louis, it’s had for me to accurately analyze the Pac-10, since the hoops games are rarely on tv (and, when they are, I’m sleeping). But, these numbers seem conclusive to me.
Miguel Mejia likey.
Actually you bring up a great point... national relevance
All the Pac-10 schools argue about East Coast bias, so it behooves CU to play games against teams in the Central timezone more than the Pacific.
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Wasn't it more about
Getting screwed financially by Texas’ monopoly on the conference?
aye
I just wanted to show the strength of the Big 12. When you’re hot, hit.
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I think that was Nebraska’s reasoning. Colorado came across as more of a “this conference is about to collapse let’s get while the going is good” sort of deal.
I am worried about the Big 12’s future with the financial inequality. When it’s that or survive, teams are willing to take a hit, but a few years down the road, it’s harder to say.
I hear the Natl Inquirer is looking for help
Why did you even write this post? To prove that the Big 12 is better at two sports than the PAC 10? Okay then maybe the headline should’ve been “good luck Colorado because you are leaving a better basketball and football conference”. If you don’t think the grass is greener in the PAC10 for so many more reasons, then maybe you should look a little deeper. Believe it or not, changing conferences is not all about basketball and football.
Maybe you should stop writing to create drama/controversy. Although I am looking forward to the Nebraska “grass isn’t always greener” write-up.
"Don't be pushed by your problems. Be led by your dreams."
Like I said
this is a sports blog, so I am discussing sports.
There obviously are other reasons than competitiveness of the sports that made CU leave. Hell, the Pac-10 is great at baseball, so maybe CU can compete… oh wait, they don’t have baseball. The Pac-10 dominates water polo every year… oh yeah, no water polo either in Boulder.
Point is that when it comes to basketball (which this blog discusses) the Pac-10 isnt comparable. And I threw football in for good measure.
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So then why not state what you are saying
when it come to basketball (which you cover) and another sport (that proves your theory) it appears the Colorado buffs might not be moving to better conference as far as current competition goes.
So how does the PAC 10 v. Big 12 matchup in terms of overall championships with basketball and football? Just curious, wouldn’t want you to make the mistake of short-sidedness.
The grass IS greener for so many many many reasons….. so what I trying to say is I believe you are very wrong. TADOW!!
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All Time Championships
So in hoops, the Pac-10 has 15 NCAA tournament championships, 11 of them by UCLA. No other team has won more than once. The Big 12 has 5, 3 by KU and 2 by Ok State.
In football, according to Wikipedia, the Big 12 has 48 titles to the Pac-10’s 31 (that is a lot of titles)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_football_national_championships_in_NCAA_Division_I_FBS
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Must be mulitple championships per season cause those number don't quite compute
Also I am guessing Nebraska (which is also leaving the Big 12(Texas)) has a bunch.
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Nbraska has 11
Oklahoma 17 and Texas 14. On the Pac-10 side USC had 17 followed by Cal with 5
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Counting all those non-consensus Championships might not be the best way to show Football Natl Championships in total
Plus its very misleading to say Oklahoma has 17 Natl championship when 10 of those aren’t really recognized.
Maybe using the College Football Data Warehouse recognized national champions or the
National poll championships by current conference membership (1936–present)
Big 12 18 total Oklahoma (7), Nebraska (5), Texas (4), Colorado (1), Texas A&M (1)
Pac-10 9 total USC (7), Washington (1), UCLA (1)
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OK,still proves the same point
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That with CU and NU leaving that makes it pretty close. 12-10
Yes you proved your point….. if you were proving they aren’t really that different.
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