In a Perfect World (Conference Realignment)
Today the Big Ten conference issued a statement that they are exploring the possibility of expanding.
Every few years we hear the same rumblings and every few years there are articles published about what realignment would look like. But not since Penn State was admitted into the Big Ten has anything official been released. With that, below is the definitive article on the topic.
And even though this is a basketball blog, I will focus on the BCS aspect of realignment to argue my points. I will discuss basketball, though, and all points held for football can loosely translate over to hoops as well.
Currently there are six BCS conferences and those 6 all get automatic BCS-bowl bids. Those conferences are Big East, SEC, Big 10, Big 12, Pac-10, ACC. Of those six, three of the conferences have enough football teams to have a conference championship game (the Big East would have enough if more of their charter schools had D1 football programs).
Part of the BCS issue is that you have some conferences without 12 schools, who don't currently have conference championship games. Adding conference championship games will ultimately help the BCS by crowing, on a field, a true conference champ. This will help with BCS bowl bids, and especially the BCS championship game. (Think of a rule where you have to at least win your division to get a BCS bid.
The other BCS issue is of the non-BCS schools and where they should lie. My realignment program take that into account.
Without further ado, after The Jump is the Big12Hoops.com Realignment plan.
MIZZOU MOVES TO THE BIG 10.
Why is this good for the Big 10? By admitting Mizzou into the Big 10, the Big 10 would secure a coveted TV market, namely St Louis. They would also get a share of the Kansas City TV market. By expanding westward, revenues from the Big 10 Network and apparel sales would grow. The Big 10 would also secure a 12th team and legitimize a conference championship game. The divisions would be as follow:
Big 10 East: Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Indiana, Purdue, Penn State
Big 10 West: Mizzou, Illinois, Northwestern, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa
Under this scenario all regional rivalries remain in tact
Why is this good for Mizzou? The Big 12 seems to forget about schools not named Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska and Kansas (basketball). There is no television network, so Mizzou's games are generally only regionally shown. There is Big Monday for basketball, but that is mainly reserved for Texas and KU. Under this, Mizzou's football games could be carried on the Big 10 Network and basketball games will be tied into the Big 10 ESPN deal. All this leads to a major recruiting advantage in both revenue generating sports.
Mizzou also has a rival in Illinois that would heat up instantly and the heated rivalry with Kansas will replace the Illinois basketball and football games on the schedules. Instead of St Louis, though, the KU games will be played at the Sprint Center and Arrowhead in KC.
But what about... Iowa State? The Cyclones seem to also be a natural fit and could easily add fuel to the rivalry with in-state foe Iowa Hawkeyes. The problem is that the Big 10 gains little from that arrangement. They are already pretty entrenched in the Hawkeye State and the addition of ISU wouldn't help their regional or national reputation.
THE UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON JOINS THE BIG XII
Why is this good for the Big 12? The University of Houston is a large campus, in a region of Texas that is currently underdeveloped with college sports. Houston is the 4th largest city in the country, and by planting a team there, the Big 12 will get even more Texas viewership.
The big question would be on alignment, since there will now be 5 Texas schools. My proposal is for
Big 12 "North": Nebraska, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State
Big 12 "South": Texas, Houston, Texas Tech, Texas A&M, Baylor, Colorado
The division names will have to be rebranded, but adding Colorado to the South is acceptable because Coloradoans joke that there are more Texans in the state than natives.
Why is this good for Houston? Historically, the Cougars have had a good football team, and have won a basketball national championship. Having a Big XII logo on their court will increase their recruiting presence in the city and state and potentially turn them into powerhouse.
But what about... TCU? TCU would be a good choice, if they were bigger. Their 8000 student just wouldn't cut it if the conference wishes to remain the BIG 12. Houston's enrollment is approximately 30,000 students. Commuter school or not, Houston would help retain the "Big" in Big 12.
BYU AND UTAH GO TO THE PAC-10
Why is this good for the Pac-10? By including Utah and BYU into the Pac-10, the conference will have the 12 schools needed for an automatic conference championship games. Both programs have historically legitimate football and basketball programs, and they will bring their rivalry with them. Geographically, they are far enough West to warrant admission into the conference.
The division would be as follows
Pac-10 North: Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, BYU, Utah
Pac-10 South: Arizona, Arizona State, California, Stanford, UCLA, USC
Why is this good for BYU and Utah? Both recruit well from the West, and inclusion into the conference will aid that. And by coming over as a pair (and as rivals) they bring legitimacy to the expansion eastward.
But what about... geography? The state of Utah doesn't border any states of current Pac-10 members, and that may cause some issues, but distance isn't really something the conference has ever regarded. Consider that Tucson, AZ to Seattle, WA is 1100 miles, or 400 miles farther than Tucson to Provo, UT. [Ed. Note: apparently my archaic map still lists Arizona as part of Mexico. Utah does in fact border Arizona.]
ADD MORE TEAMS TO THE MOUNTAIN WEST
Why is this good for the Mountain West? As it stands under this scenario, the Mountain West is down to 7 members (the current 9, minus BYU and Utah). To get up with the big boys, the MWC needs to add 5 schools. The 5 that should move to the MWC should be: Boise State, Nevada, New Mexico State, Rice, SMU.
There is already talk of Boise coming over to the MWC, so that is a no brainer. The others are coming over as "rivals" to existing MWC schools. Nevada will face UNLV, New Mexico State will pair with New Mexico, Rice and SMU will pit against TCU is a three-way battle for Texas.
Having 12 schools will allow the conference to host a championship game, matching the winners of each division, which would be as follows:
MWC North: UNLV, Nevada, Air Force, Wyoming, Colorado State, Boise State
MWC South: San Diego State, New Mexico, New Mexico State, TCU, Rice, SMU
Why is this good for the 5 programs? The shift from either the C-USA or WAC will legitimize the programs (see the next point). All will also enter the new MWC with a foe. Everyone wins.
But what about... the MWC still remaining relatively minute as compared to their BCS brethren? Why would these schools shift from one conference to another, just for shits and giggles? See next point.
ADMIT THE MOUNTAIN WEST INTO THE BCS
Why is this good for the BCS? Controversy will mainly be avoided. By admitting the redesigned MWC into the BCS you are accepting the current BCS gate crashers. You are bringing in the current at-large schools causing heartache and giving yourself another conference champion that the country can latch onto.
Why is this good for the MWC? Why isn't it good for the MWC?
But what about... the C-USA and WAC? These two conferences are now in shambles. What to do? See next item.
MERGE THE C-USA AND WAC
Why is this good for the two conferences? Because of the success of some of their schools, and regional ability to move, the Conference USA and WAC are currently left in shambles (under this proposal). Essentially afterthoughts as they are, now they are left with 15 schools between them. They could either split them up 8 and 7 or combine forces and form a 15 league mega conference. In terms of basketball, as we have seen with the Big East, and their 16 school hoops conference, too many schools doesn't water down the pool.
But what about... regionality? The C-USA is currently a conglomerate of throw-ins from around the country. Under this plan, that would just increase to a truly national conference. The members of it would be: Fresno St, Hawaii, Idaho, La Tech, San Jose St, Utah St, UTEP, Tulane, Tulsa, UAB, Cent Florida, ECU, Marshall, Memphis, Southern Miss
Using the scenario outlined above, 18 schools will change conferences. This sounds like a lot, but as you can see many will be moving as groups and either with or to a rival.
But what about the Big East? Well, the Big East is the one conference I am leaving alone. In their football world, they are lacking the 12 members to create a championship game. But when you include their basketball members, they are a 16-team powerhouse.
One final thought. I reserve the right to claim this entire scenario null and void if Notre Dame ever decides to join the Big 10. If that were to happen, I would still endorse some shifting, but nothing to the extent of this proposal. More on that if a Notre Dame to the Big 10 rumor starts getting some legitimate traction.
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Greatest thing ever...
Nothing better than being able to turn on the Big 10 Network each Saturday to see Mizzou playing, as opposed to figuring out what PPV channel I need to order.
$5/month for the Big 10 network or $15 for each PPV game.
Mizzou fans win!
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So, you wanna have the MWC lose 2 of their 3 good programs and then give them an Auto-Bid?
Also, under this scenario, the MWC would clearly take UTEP over NMSU. UTEP has traditional rivalries with UNM and other former Wac schools and averages over 30k for football games where NMSU barely gets 15k minumum and has porous facilities.
Also, you ignore Memphis who is a basketballl power and is trying to get into the Big East. If the Big 10 takes Pitt or a Big East team, thats when the domino’s really fall…
Wouldn’t it be more likely for Colorado to join the Pac 10 then move into the Big 12 South?
Colorado to the Pac-10 seems a likely scenario also. Who would they bring with them? CSU? Boise? The Pac-10 would need a 12th school also.
If Pitt ends up being the Big 10(2) school then Memphis is a no brainer to join the Big East.
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Paterno just wants somebody out east
so that it’ll cut the travel times. He’s the odd ball in the group being way out there.
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Travel Times
Happy Valley to Columbia, MO is shorter than the distance from Happy Valley to Minneapolis (the two current big 10 geographical outliers)
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I don't think that was the point...
…the point was that if someone out east is added, PSU will have a school that is a shorter trip. While Columbia is marginally closer to Happy Valley than M/SP, PSU would much prefer the trip to Syracuse, Pittsburgh or Camden to Columbia.
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Dec 16, 2009 7:26 AM CST up reply actions
Yes
I was poking a little fun at Paterno and what TB basically states my point.
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Ah
Now you get it!
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I'd be curious...
DOes Paterno have as much say as some of the long standing Big 10 schools? Meaning.. does Penn State as the “new guy” hold as much water as, say Ohio State, Iowa or Indiana?
They probably have a vote just like everyone else, I justt wonder if they are heard as loud behind closed doors.
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That's a good question
and you have to think the legend of Joe Paterno would probably, at the very least, have the same voice.
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For Mizzou ...
A move makes athletic, academic and financial sense.
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I think the one common theme to all this Realignment Talk
is that if the Big 10 decides to go after a school (other than Notre Dame) from a BCS conference, all hell is going to break loose. If one conference looses a team, then they are going to half to struggle to either steal another team to make it whole again. Other conferences would have major pressure to jump up to 12 teams as well. All this outrageous talk about major realignment just got real. Geography would start to diminish between conferences if that happens and then their might be talk about a super league leaving out all the BCS have-nots and college football will be lost.
(I took that too far didn’t I?)
In all reality, if the Big 10 actually does get it’s 12th member it will 95% most likely get Notre Dame or a non-BCS school.
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Notre Dame is their top choice, no doubt.
If not, what non-BCS school is big enough to compete in the Big 10 in the money generating sports (football and hoops).
I do see Armageddon happening, and maybe not to the extent of this. If they take a Big East school, hell is not necessarily broken loose. They have a good number of (basketball) teams and can sustain.
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I have no idea which non-BCS would be "worthy" enough
You would definitely have some turmoil in the Big East if a team left. As of right now they only have 8 football teams. Take one away and they could only play 6 conference games. They already play one less than the rest of the BCS conferences. At what point does the BCS then force them to add or do they get kicked out? Like you said, basketball wouldn’t be really effected except that they might lose a good team from a stacked conference. Football is where they are severly lacking and could become a bigger joke than they already are.
If the Big 10 adds a BCS school, look for more than one conference to do some sort of realigning.
Oh and yes, a total armageddon was just the result of rambling on.
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I'm not sure I agree
It makes some sense in terms of geography and football, but not so much academically – the CIC, the Big 10’s academic component, is about big, mostly public research schools, and Notre Dame doesn’t fit the bill. Mizzou’s a lot better fit on the academic front.
I'm with William Quantrill. Go Missouri, beat Kansas.
In the CIC are Northwestern and U Chicago as well. Both private and both academic powerhouses.
ND is bigger than both those schools and in the same league, academically, as them. I don’t think that would be a deterrent for admission into the league.
I am a Mizzou alumni, but truthfully ND has a better academic reputation.
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Actually
According to the Academic Ranking of World Universities (methodology described here), Mizzou and Notre Dame are right around the same level, Mizzou being ranked 3 slots ahead of ND. And Mizzou has a substantial advantage in size, sports (currently), and potential revenue.
That said, Pittsburgh is ranked much, much higher than either, so if we’re looking at a purely academic standpoint, it’d be hard to argue that the Big 10 wouldn’t be better served with Pitt.
I'm with William Quantrill. Go Missouri, beat Kansas.
Geography question smart guy...
“But what about… geography? The state of Utah doesn’t border any states of current Pac-10 members, and that may cause some issues”
Last time i checked Utah bordered Arizona which has 2 Pac-10 schools
I think I meant to say it doesnt border the Pacific Ocean.. but I guess AZ doesn’t either.
That actually strengthens my point…
LETS DO IT!
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Why not Pitt?
i think adding pitt would make more sense than adding mizzou. this addition would not only add more credibility to the new big 10, it could result in a budding rivalry between pitt and penn st. put osu and mich in one division and psu and pitt in the other. the big east would take the hit but they are a b-ball conference anyway. it seems that ‘nova has had quite a bit of success at the FCS level so maybe they can transition to FBS status to replace pitt, they’re already a big east b-ball team. problem solved.
Pac-10 Has a real champion
I think one of your main points is incorrect. The Pac-10 doesn’t need a conference championship game because they all already play each other! Having them play a championship game does not good for either them or the BCS.
As a result, your ‘positives’ for the Pac-10 are weak. They don’t gain anything by having the championship game.
Further, conferences are about more than just sports. Utah and BYU are poor fits, both because they are not the Tier-1 research universities that the rest of the conference is (though ASU’s status is not fully justifiable on that regard), and secondly, that although their football programs are good the rest of their sports are not necessarily up to snuff.
In the end, you can’t justify realignment and adding teams just to make a conference championship game. It sure didn’t help the ACC any.
Your two points
1) A championship game is always better in crowning a champion than using a series of tiebreakers, in case there is a three or more way tie in the conference. Plus, from what I read, a championship game will bring in between $5 million (like it does for the ACC) and $14.3 million (like it does for the SEC). That is a lot of dough to think about for one game.
2) As for the academic side, you may be right. I haven’t seen the Utah or BYU rankings.
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According to US News
BYU and Utah are Tier 1… but just barely
http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/best-colleges/2009/03/13/athletic-conference-breakdown-mountain-west-conference.html
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