Big 12 All Decade Team

that front court wouldn’t lose a game… you’re right.

If I were to have gone G/G/F/F/F that would have probably been the line up.

Shouldn’t Blake get credit for playing two years? or get dinged?

For their careers:
Tinsley averaged more assist per game
Tinsley averaged more steals per game
Tinsley averaged more rebounds per game
Tinsley (barely) averaged more points per game
Tinsley averaged more blocks per game

Since those stats are kinda watered down because Hinrich’s numbers are watered down because he didn’t get as much PT in his first year, let’s just look at their last two years.

Over their last two years:
Hinrich averaged more pts
Tinsley averaged more assists
Tinsley averaged more rebounds
Tinsley averaged more blocks
Tinsley averaged more steals
Hinrich shot better from the field, free throw line, 3 pt

I think that if you put either at the point you have a solid squad. The weight factor I used was that Tinsley was Big 12 player of the year his Sr year and 2nd team AA. Hinrich made it to 1st Team All Big 12 his senior year, but his teammate Nick Collison was POY.

Either way you in.

It was tough to figure out how to rank players based on their length of stay. Should Durant and Beasley be penalized because they played one year? They were both national players of the year. Blake played two years, again national player of the year.

This aint the 70s, so we need to look at body of work for something like this, and sometimes the years played differ. I went on accolades, production and gut instinct when making the list.

Do you think Melo wouldn’t make a Big East all decade list? Hell, there are some who are saying he was the greatest college hoops player of all time… he only played one year.

(I guess replies go up top, so this should be First: Length of stay and the one below, Next: Tinsley Hinrich)

I think a lot of this goes back to the one-and-done vs 4 year guy. I couldn’t wait for Hollis Price to get out of Oklahoma, but think about how much damage Durant would have done by his senior year? Or Beasley? Or Blake? Who wins a place on your team, the best player int eh country for a year, or the biggest pest in the conference for 3-4 years?

The question, in this day and age, is whether an all Decade team should be made of up the best players or of those that put up the best stats in college.

As for the NBA take, the first team is made up of 2 guys who haven’t played an NBA game. And actually looking over the list, Durant would be the only NBA superstar.

I was surprised Chauncey Billups didn’t make the list. If I remember correctly, he only played a couple years at Colorado, but I remember being very happy when he went to the NBA Draft.

Now that I think about it, his last year was probably his only in the Big 12 (and not the Big 8)…and, of course, there’s a ton of talent at PG to choose from.

Not better than Tinsley, Hinrich or Ford, in my opinion.

that I’ll respond to, despite it not being my list. The Honorable Mentions are done fairly systematically, as you can see by 2-per team with a few exceptions. The teams that justified having multiple entries had them and I think personal bias took over when he slotted in 4 people for Missouri.

I really think you’re splitting hairs with Fizer and Gooden. Maybe the author feels more strongly about one than the other, but looking at their careers, I definitely think they’re interchangable.

Slotting Ford and Augustin up would require moving either Hinrich or Tinsley down. I don’t see how the hell you could justify the two Longhorn PGs ahead of either of the other two. T.J. played at a frenetic pace and really pushed the Longhorns but he was nowhere near the complete package that both Tinsley and Hinrich became.

As for Cole Aldrich making the first team….where exactly would you have put him? Going by a strict positional basis, there weren’t very many true centers in the running the last 10 years and as I noted below, I think Mihm ahead of Collison is wrong. Aldrich might not have done a whole lot in his freshman season but his pimp-handing of Hansbrough in the Final Four played a huge, huge role in that game. His season last year was nothing short of dominant defensively and if you watched a couple KU games you’d know that his points would’ve been higher if they actually ran some set plays for the guy. He’s a complete basketball player and a true center. The triple-double he had last year against Dayton in the tourney was unbelievable. In my opinion, he’s as much a runaway on the 1st Team All-Decade as Durant was (though if you were going G/G/F/F/F it would absolutely be Beasley in the 5th spot).

A lot of this was based on Big 12 POY. Tucker was Big 12 POY and 2nd team All American his Jr. year. That catapults him ahead of Brackins.

would make it? I’ll give you BRush, but nobody else is really deserving. Chalmers was good, but not an all-decade guy. Cole is on my list. COllins played, but i dont think he is better than TInsley/TJ/Hinrich etc.

Here’s the roster: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007-08_Kansas_Jayhawks_men%27s_basketball_team#Roster